“You do not do you do not do/Anymore black shoe/In which I have lived like a foot…”–Sylvia Plath, “Daddy”
I was going to do a post on reincarnation, but then my dad sent me this article:
http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/20090607_A_new_entry_in_the_God_Debate.html
Summary for those of you who, like me, don’t always read the links because you’re too lazy or don’t have time: The article is a book review of Reason, Faith, and Revolution: Reflections on the God Debate by Terry Eagleton. I haven’t read it, so I can only respond to what the article says about it. However, I’m pretty sure that my dad hasn’t read it either. I’m also fairly sure that my dad hasn’t read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins, which Eagleton argues against in his book. First, according to the article, Eagleton speaks against Dawkins’s attack on fundamentalists, who do, according to Eagleton, deserve the attacks that they get. Eagleton, though, believes that Dawkins assumes that all religious people are fundamentalists. This sets up an easy target for Dawkins. Eagleton then goes on to argue that Dawkins completely misses the point because, according to Eagleton, the debate isn’t about whether or not there’s a God at all! The real issue, Eagleton claims, is about the Gospels and the transformative love and courage that are portrayed in them.
Okay, here’s my response: To the first part, yes, religious fundamentalism (and I really ought to do a post on properly defining that, but if I try to get into it now, I’ll just go off on a tangent, so it will have to wait) is a straw man. And, yes, I agree that Dawkins takes it a bit too far when he says that we should do away with religion entirely. I agree that we don’t need to go that far. This world could be a happy and harmonious place with religion. However, if that is going to happen, even some religious “moderates” need to make some radical changes to their views on the world and their interactions with other religions and groups of people. For instance, the moderate stance on issues like gay rights is hardly better than the fundamentalist one. However, this certainly doesn’t give the atheists the right to be as nasty as the fundamentalists. If the atheists want religious people to behave more tolerantly towards them, then they atheists should behave more tolerantly towards the religious people. I agree that there has been too much hatred on both sides and it’s not getting anyone anywhere.
It’s Eagleton’s introduction of the Gospels into the debate that bothers me. First of all, if you’re going to set out to disprove the existence of God, the Gospels are sort of irrelevant, aren’t they? I mean, yes, they do contain some good sayings about loving other people and being kind, but the power that they hold for Christians rests on the existence of a God that could divinely inspire these Gospels. If you’ve disproven that God exists (and, no, I don’t think that Dawkins has done that conclusively), then the Gospels are a moot point. And as to Eagleton saying that faith is “not about subscribing to some supernatural entity”…isn’t that the very definition of faith? Maybe Eagleton explains his definition more clearly in his book. As I said, I don’t know because I haven’t read it. Also, Christians use the Gospels to assert that Jesus was God’s Son. Well, if you’ve proven that there is no God, then this nonexistent God certainly can’t have a son. So, I would say to Eagleton that the Gospels are not the big question in the God debate. If you’re setting out to prove that there is no God, then proving that there is no God makes the Gospels anything more than a collection of books that were written by human beings at a specific point in time. Yes, they have some nice sayings in them, but that’s all they are. The world would indeed be a better place is we all loved our enemies and did unto others as we would have them do unto us.
And this is where I don’t follow Eagleton. He talks about transformative love and courage. They are lovely words, but what do they really mean? Maybe he explains them more in his book, but just from reading the article, I must say that I don’t know what he’s talking about. The article says that he doesn’t endorse his own beliefs, but I’ll hazard a guess that he’s saying that with Jesus in your heart, you are transformed by God’s love and can share that love with other people. This would be so nice, except I’ve never seen it. I have seen no difference between the kind of love that Christians have and the kind that nonChristians have. Both groups can be incredibly kind, cheerful in the direst circumstances, generous, encouraging, and helpful. Both groups can also be petty, backbiting, cruel, short tempered, and narrow-minded. If there is something transformative about Christians love, than I have never seen it. More than likely, it doesn’t exist, and Christians are just like regular people with regular human natures that can be very bad and also much, much better than we give them credit for.
What really bothers me about Eagleton’s argument is that he seems to be saying indirectly, “Atheists cannot have any concept of love. They cannot have any concept of courage or virtue. In fact, the notion that they display such virtues is so hateful to them that they must set up the straw man of fundamentalism in order to argue against such virtues and make themselves look smart.” It’s ridiculous to think that nonChristians cannot have any concept of virtue, as I’ve already explained. And, trust me, it’s not Jesus’ message of love and kindness that offends people like Richard Dawkins. It’s the fact that Christians don’t exemplify this message any more than the average human, Christian or nonChristian, does and then claim to have the ultimate truth that offends them.
On a more personal note, I’m sort of hurt that my dad sent me this article. Well, I’m not hurt by the fact that he sent me the article. By that I’m simply confused. Does he expect me to go running out into the living room shouting, “Dad! You sent me that article disproving everything that Richard Dawkins has said! I’m going to become a Christian again! Yahoo!” ? Please. Richard Dawkins actually had nothing to do with my de-conversion. I didn’t read The God Delusion until after I’d de-converted, and in the process of my de-conversion, it took me more than one book to turn my back on Christianity.
What does hurt me is the fact that, I guess, my dad seems to have no interest in talking with me about my de-conversion. Of course, I didn’t expect him to, but if he’d surprised me and shown some interest in discussing it with me face-to-face, I’d have been thrilled. And when I say “discussion,” I mean discussion and not argument. Sadly, I’m not sure if my dad can see the difference between these two. If I did sit down with him and say, “Dad, I want to talk to you about religion and why I’ve decided not to be a Christian anymore,” he would immediately turn the conversation into an argument. He would have to prove himself right, and he would show no interest in my thoughts and feelings about the issue. He wouldn’t be able to put his own biases aside long enough just to understand me. He wouldn’t be able to say, “Okay, pumpkin, I guess we disagree about some things, but at least we each understand where we’re coming from.” I can’t imagine him opening his mind up enough to do that.
This makes me very sad, because I’d love to have that kind of conversation with my dad. Soon after I stopped considering myself a Christian, I made a list of questions about religion that I want to ask my dad. These questions had nothing to do with trying to make him de-convert too. They weren’t written with the intent of challenging him on them. They were simply things that my dad believes that I’d never understood and I’d like to understand them simply so that I could get to know my dad as a person better. I’d love to have almost any kind of conversation with my dad, actually. We have a lot in common, but we never seem to be able to get past the mundane topics like our daily routines, music, movies, and TV shows. When I try to talk to my dad about any subject deeper than this, he usually hands me a book and tells me to go read it. Anytime I had a theological question to ask him, his answer was always, “Read this.” It was kind of impersonal, especially because he would never even discuss the books with me after I read them!
I’m also hurt because I’m wondering if my dad sees me the way that Eagleton seems to see Dawkins—a nonbeliever incapable of virtue. C’mon, Dad! You raised me better than that! Give yourself some credit! My parents raised me to be considerate of other people, to care about other people and to think about how my actions affect their feelings. Instead of giving me a bunch of rules to memorize and calling it morality, my parents taught me how to think morally. They taught me how to reason my way through a situation so that, when I ran into situations where there were no rules, I could still make moral choices. Guess what, Dad? You raised me so well that I can still behave morally without God always looking over my shoulder and threatening me with Hell if I’m bad. You did a better job than most Christian parents that I know, and you should be proud of yourself for that.
Ironically, my dad, the epitome of reason, rationality, and critical thinking, was the person who taught me how to think in such a way that it led to my de-conversion. From as young as the age of six, I can remember my dad trying to teach me math problems and yelling, “Think!” at me. It was a command that I have taken seriously all of my life, probably more seriously than my dad realizes. My whole life I have tried to be smart, to think, to reason. I have tried to be as logical and intelligent as a Vulcan because that is the kind of thinking that my dad required in that one-word command. My dad was the first person to introduce me to the concept of critical thinking—the idea that you can’t take everything you read at face value. You have to examine the facts, gather all the information that you need, study the issue from all sides, and then make a decision. Well, when I started questioning Christianity, I did just that. I questioned it on its stance on gay rights. I questioned it on its stance on feminism. I questioned it on its stance on Hell. Finally, I questioned it on its stance that the Bible is the infallible word of God. I questioned its insistence that it is the only path to God and the only way to salvation. I questioned its assertion that it was the final revelation of God. I did exactly what my dad taught me to do. I looked at the facts. I gathered the information that I needed. I examined the issues from all sides. Then I made up my mind, and my conclusions were very different from my dad’s.
However, just because I’ve rejected my religion doesn’t mean that I want to reject my family. I still love them. I still respect them. I still want to spend time with them and talk with them. I feel the same way about my Christian friends. If religion was the only thing that we ever had linking us, then we didn’t have a very strong relationship to begin with. I’d like to think that my relationships with my family and friends are stronger than that.